Tell us a little bit about that job and how you flipped from being in the industry to recruiting for the industry.

I left school with a couple of A-levels, three A-levels, and I just thought, I think at that age, even more so then, I didn't know what to do.

Somebody said, go make a QS.

That sounds good.

Brilliant.

Where is it? London, even better.

So I was traveling to London.

Is there an element though that you also know that some roles are just not worth taking the retainer because you're not going to fill it like they've gone out to market with the wrong role or