Oof.

So it, it was, like, uh, drinking out of a, out of a fire hose, you know, like learning, you know, on the job, and we, it was, it was a, it was a shit show, for sure, but it was fun.

But here's the thing that, that I didn't think about, and, and, and you guys should even think about this yourselves.

Let's say the Negative Splits decide they wanna put on a party 50K somewhere in Buffalo, okay? The three of you get together, you put on a race, all right? Here's what you don't expect: there will be people from all over the world that come to your race because they're fans of the, of the show, and then when they get there, it, they're gonna be meeting you guys for the first time, and they're gonna be, like, so blown away that they're finally, and you know, "You're in my ear for hours and hours and hours.

It feels like you're my friend." And here's the fu- the fun part was they know each other from the Facebook group, and they're all, "You're so-and-so, and you're so-and-so." And what I didn't expect was that this entire community, which kinda already existed, would convalesce at the race.

They didn't just run.

They put lawn chairs at the finish line and drank beer for a whole day, and they went out for dinner together, and they went out for breakfast together, and then it became like a reunion for them.

What did you make of the Sage versus, uh, Cam Haynes thing?

Yeah.

And, um, the year that Flynn died, Josh Son ran the Superior Trail 100 with his bib in his place as his first 100.

And I, I wanna say, and someone can fact check me on this, that he didn't know what he was getting himself into and didn't know anything about it.

And, and it's a really hard race, and he finished.

Um, and I think I might have met him for the first time there.

I think I might have met him for the first time there.

Uh, but then he, it was a funny story, he and I both went to do the Angeles Crest 100, uh, the next year, I believe, and it wasn't until the pre-race meeting that he learned that you can't use trekking poles.

Yeah.

Well,

and so there's basically...

We'll back up.

So I got that on vinyl.

The reason why this podcast came about is so many, you know, I'm a vinyl record collector and a lot of people come to me and they say, what vinyl records should I own? What do I get? I kept hearing it over and over again.

And I started to think, you know, like, are there records that everyone should own? Are there records that are objectively important, objectively essential? And this causes a lot of strife on the podcast because a lot of times people make the mistake of what they like.

Being what is essential.

They're like, could it be deemed essential? Like, do we have to wait five years or 10 years or 20 years for an album to be considered essential? Or if it is, is it off the bat? So my question is, do you think that sometimes when people are evaluating the albums, that they also look at the currency or the too soon-ness of it all?