Do you have any tips or tricks? And should I even be looking at the rumen to try to find toxic plants or will they already be digested? Can I find pieces and parts? Tell me your rumen dive mechanism.

Let's ruminate on the rumen.

Okay.

Yeah.

So I think we can all recognize that's not heterogeneous or it is heterogeneous.

It's not home homogeneous, right? There's You've got liquid on the bottom.

You've got a fiber mat.

What are they? Yeah.

So what are some of the biggest mistakes that that's make when interpreting a liver mineral results?

Yeah, I think one of the biggest one is, you know, we have published reference intervals.

So what's normal and what's not normal.

And it's really easy.

You know, we like to have those lines in the sand where if it's below the line, it means one thing.

If it's above the line, it means another.

It's not really true.

So how can choosing the wrong sample or collecting it at the wrong time undermine the investigation?

Give me a list of what toxins kill that fast.

It's a great question.

So it's a pretty short list.

Um, so I start thinking of things that affect oxygen delivery, things that can affect cardiac conduction, and things that can affect neurotransmitters in the brain.

So for cattle, uh, um, oxygen delivery, I'm thinking nitrate or cyanide.

Prussic acid could be an- another term for cyanide.

Um, neurotransmitter stuff, I'm thinking organophosphate type insecticides.

And, and so tell me, a- and we've talked through this before, but basically, how, how much of an ocular sample do I need to get to get to you at the lab, and what's your procedure for doing that?