Scott Fardy

I think trusting the process that got me there, but also at the same time, lifting my level up to the level of the players that were there as well or trying to.

Obviously, Michael Hooper, David Pocock, Scott Fardy, like they were great people to be learning off each and every single day.

Knowledge was a big one.

I have another story.

Yeah, absolutely.

I mean, I always see Ryan Baird as sort of having been, come out from the shadow behind Scott Fardy.

I think Fardy was a big influence on him when he was at Leinster and he's, and if he can be that kind of player for Leinster, definitely.

And he, you know, he was, he was definitely the position to play for Ireland.