scientific editor

Joining us on the line now is David Shookman.

He was the BBC's first science editor and led it on climate for nearly 20 years.

His pioneering live reports from around the world, including the Amazon and Antarctica, established him as one of Britain's leading climate journalists, being described by Sir David Attenborough as as a leader in raising awareness about the climate emergency.

His latest book, The Response, is a story of fire and flood in Britain's new world of extremes.

It's a pleasure.

It's great to have you with us.

So I'm guessing when you started as the BBC's science editor all those years ago, you had no idea how your career would pan out and how long you'd be with the BBC.

No, that's right.