Scaled agile framework

The other relevant part of my career is around agile and digital transformation.

So I worked for a company called Scaled Agile, and that was where we took lean and agile practices and we scaled them up into the world's largest enterprises.

When

I started to really dive into AI, I quickly realized the parallels between the organizational change that needed to happen in these lean and agile implementations and the organizational changes that we would need to support as AI started to rewire the roles and jobs.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And as someone who was an agile and extreme programming coach and that got Scaled Agile Framework certified, I set up Kanban boards dozens and dozens of times and would teach people how to move the cards along and to get that visibility or to do big room planning.

And in my pursuit of all those things is just trying to figure out how do we scale good software? How do we scale the creation of good products? And for 25 years or something like that, I kind of pursued that because I was like, I always felt like I was very satisfied with the answers that I was getting, but I would get to some answer.

I would get the opportunity to try it out in a company and go, ah, okay, now I know what the problem with that was.

And sometimes you need external help to be able to have someone to come in and ask the simple questions, the obvious questions that other people won't ask.

And and it's great to it's and I when I was a consultant to helping people do that.

With agile software development and lean software development and scaled agile framework, I could come in and I just wasn't mired in the habits.

So I would question everything, not to be mean or because they were doing something wrong, but I'd be like, you're doing this.

My guest today is Melissa Reeve, creator of the Hyper Adaptive model and author of Hyper Adaptive: Rewiring the Enterprise to Become AI Native.

She studied the Toyota production system in Tokyo, served as the first VP of marketing at Scaled Agile, and co-founded the Agile Marketing Alliance.

Today, we're gonna get into a really exciting topic, the five stages of becoming AI native, what dynamic governance actually looks like, and why an activation layer may be the thing standing between a company's pilots and its results.

Melissa, welcome to the show.

But it was, it was always hardwired in my DNA to take this experimental approach, to take a, a test and learn approach, to continuously improve.

And so when I came across, there was a white paper by a guy named Jim Yule that I came across in 2011, uh, talking about Agile marketing.

I thought, "Aha, this is what I wanna be doing with my career, in my marketing roles." And I just happened to live in Boulder, Colorado, where Scaled Agile was, uh, coming into its own and looking for a VP of marketing.

And all of a sudden, all these pieces of my career, the lean, the, the TPS, the, the Agile marketing kinda culminated into that role.

I don't know.

I'm not a SAFe expert, but I believe SAFe has some notion of a definition of done.

Scrum definitely does have some definition of done.

So that is important.