Did, did you kinda know in your heart, or were you fingers and toes crossed that maybe you didn't have it?

I don't think I inhe- inherently had a sense of whether I had it or not.

I think maybe I erred on the side of just wanting to be in denial [laughs] or, like, think that it wasn't gonna be my path.

But, um, I was living in Boulder at the time, and so I...

There's a, the Rocky Mountain Cancer Center out there, which was really convenient to establish, um, a connection there.

And, you know, they educate you on all the protocol.

Like, "Oh, well, now th- these are the things we look at if, for someone who ha- who might have, uh, the mutation." And so they actually recommend screening at 25, but I, I think I was still kind of like a dirt bag vagabond, [laughs] like, wandering around the world kinda thing.

Talk about how that came to be.