Now, what keeps you going and what forces come against you when you're speaking like this?

I don't consider it's just that I'm a lone soldier.

I see myself as one part of another process and a process that change doesn't happen overnight.

Through every conversation, through every research that our interns do, it's almost like that story about the little rock.

And as it rolls, it gets more moss.

And what I'm trusting in Queenslanders is that they do, they start taking enough interest to add to that rolling rock and understand that they can have a system that is serving just them.

And it doesn't take a lot.

really?