So when we saw when you saw generative AI evolve from chatbots to agents, was it immediately clear that Sunri would be well positioned to help people with that?

Again, I have two parallel paths.

So I have the paths that my customers are on where they're also building this stuff and using it.

And then I have Sunree Security building AI chatbots to agents as well.

And so there's two kind of parallel paths here.

And I would say they've all happened kind of over the last 24 months in reality.

If you look at the customer path, this became... very relevant very quickly when kind of the MCP server started showing up.

And if it's running away, spending the company's money, it's probably insecure.

Yeah, so when you saw generative AI evolve from chatbots to agents, was it immediately clear that Sunri would be well-positioned to help people with that?

Again, I have two parallel paths.

So I have the paths that my customers are on where they're also building this stuff and using it.

And then I have Sunree Security building AI chatbots to agents as well.

And so there's two kind of parallel paths here.

And I would say they've all happened kind of over the last 24 months in reality.

If you look at the customer path, this became... very relevant very quickly when kind of the MCP server started showing up.

Do you see that potentially happening here as well? Because it seems like we're right at that point right now where we need something out there catching these runaway, and they have security implications as well, right? Anything that you set up to quickly test something out, forgot about, you probably didn't secure very well, right? And if it's running away, spending the company's money, it's probably insecure.

Yeah, so when you saw generative AI evolve from chatbots to agents, was it immediately clear that Sunri would be well-positioned to help people with that?

Again, I have two parallel paths.

So I have the paths that my customers are on where they're also building this stuff and using it.

And then I have Sunree Security building AI chatbots to agents as well.

And so there's two kind of parallel paths here.

And I would say they've all happened kind of over the last 24 months in reality.

If you look at the customer path, this became... very relevant very quickly when kind of the MCP server started showing up.

Do you see that potentially happening here as well? Because it seems like we're right at that point right now where we need something out there catching these runaway, and they have security implications as well, right? Anything that you set up to quickly test something out, forgot about, you probably didn't secure very well, right? And if it's running away, spending the company's money, it's probably insecure.

Um, yeah, so when we saw, when you saw generative AI, uh, evolve from chatbots to agents, uh, was it immediately clear that, uh, Sonrai would be well-positioned, uh, to, to help people? With that

Uh, a-again, we-- and we-- I have two parallel paths.

So I have the paths that my customers are on, where they're also building this stuff and using it, and then I have Sonrai Security building AI, AI chatbots to agents as well.

And so there's two kind of parallel paths here, and I would say they've all happened kind of over the last 24 months in reality.

Um, if you look at the customer path, this became very relevant very quickly when kind of the MCP server started showing up.

So what happened, you of course had humans directing some set of agents that were connecting to these MCP servers doing things, and the MCP servers were backed by sometimes a unique identity or sometimes the human's identity being passed through.

And for years, again, back to our cloud problem, everything is overprivileged, so all of the humans had too many rights, of course, um, or could grant the agent too many rights that it didn't need.

[laughs] Yeah

Sandy, start off by telling us how you got your start in information security.

That was 20 plus years ago.

I was one of the co-founders.

So you're a noob.

I'm definitely a noob.

Only 20, 25 years, whatever.

Cool.

And again,

Sandy, start off by telling us how you got your start in information security.

That was 20 plus years ago.

I was one of the co-founders.

So you're a noob.

I'm definitely a noob.

Only 20, 25 years, whatever.

Cool.

And again, it's different in each

Sandy, start off by telling us how you got your start in information security.

That was 20 plus years ago.

I was one of the co-founders.

So you're a noob.

I'm definitely a noob.

Only 20, 25 years, whatever.

Cool.

And again,

Sandy, start off by telling us how you got your start in information security.

That was 20 plus years ago.

I was one of the co-founders.

So you're a noob.

I'm definitely a noob.

Only 20, 25 years, whatever.

Cool.

And again, it's different in each