I'm curious, like when did you decide to start doing that? Was it when you first got to Detroit? Was it something that you transitioned into? You know, give us the story about how that happened and, and what you're doing now.

A few years ago [laughs], I did this, uh, jewelry store in Birmingham who, which was, um, Miesing.

He liked to build, uh, sort of floating diamonds out of pressure.

And he was German.

And I remember walking into the space and it felt very traditional jewelry sort of layout and in drawing, right? So I'm like, Miesing is about floating, it's about the sort of the jewel itself, the, the stone.

So how can the environment replicate that? So anyway, I built this jewel-- Long story short, I did the jewelry store and it got really lots of comments from Birmingham City, the, um, Birmingham, Michigan.

And, uh, this gentleman walked into the store and we started talking about design.

Mm.