Mm-hmm

...the right are so good at it.

Um, but the other thing I'm struck by in this story is a sense that political influence has changed, and the way, like, you know, the long-term strategizing is very inspiring in a way, and I've, I've heard Heather say, like, people on the left can learn from this book.

But this formula of...

So for example, if I just pivot to Britain-

Yeah

...um, he went to Eton, he was an RAF pilot.

He comes across Hayek's "Road to Serfdom," and he's like, "This is what we need our politics to be." He's very worried about the direction Britain's moving in.