Sámi people

A lot of that I chalked up to Chesney has done this as a head coach for what, five, six years now, if not more at the FBS level.

Lapoi, that was his first game ever as a head coach at the FBS level or at really any level, I believe.

Well, that's the thing.

It's not even just FBS because you look at Bob Chesney.

And I think that there are a lot of voices out there that try to take advantage of that too, to say that if every choice is wrong, then why are we making a change at all? I think that one of the examples that we've got written here that we were talking about is looking at Europe and looking at the EU in particular, getting towards this idea that the EU is interested in moving towards a...

a sort of self-sustaining approach to making this green transition of saying, hey, can we rely on ourselves to be able to generate the energy that we need to get the resources that we need? And so one example in particular is when we're looking at Sweden, Norway, We've got these copper and these iron ore mines that were recently licensed for being able to begin extracting in these areas that are specifically going to be super impactful to indigenous communities, to the Sami people.

And if you know how to pronounce that, if it's Sami or Sami and you are listening, please send us an email, drop us a comment, join the conversation, please.

But this... idea that we have an opportunity now to begin extracting these things locally in Europe for use within Europe, and that this is getting away from the extractive previous approaches to this, where we're looking at the international community, often colonized countries, to be our resource for iron and for copper.

But by moving it back locally, we moved away from the first colonizing approach and have decided to now take a new colonizing approach within the EU itself.

But for real though, is it like when we're talking about the ethics is what is the answer to that question? When we're talking about is what is the most ethical resource that we could be relying on? Or do we need to be talking more about what is the most ethical supply chain? Or do we need to be talking about what is the most ethical customer? Or do we need to be talking about who needs to be ethical in this process? Do we all need to be ethical? Is it all our responsibility to all be ethical? Oh, I'm spiraling.

Hold up.

Yeah, the panic level is going through the roof and, and, um, That I just question right now is what is ethics and what is the shared definition of being ethical? Because that is situational to a lot of people, right? Side note to the Sami example is to add to your panic.

And a lot of that can indeed come from the Arctic.

But to have the Arctic become a source of all those renewables, that is going to inevitably take a toll on Arctic communities where you'll have Wind turbines being built on reindeer, Sami reindeer herding lands or electric cables cutting across the region or mines as well being built to find critical minerals that can help support the green transition, right? So...

There's one Sami leader who's, or many Sami leaders have taken to calling this a form of green colonialism, right? So I think we need to be very careful about how the green transition is imagined and how it actually materializes in ways that do not unduly harm local communities.

So I think it's encouraging that much more nuance is being paid now to how the infrastructure boom in the Arctic, no matter in what register that's happening, is going to affect local communities.

But now we need to also ensure that they're empowered to have consent or to be consented about these developments and to also have the right to veto them, right? So just because the world needs to change to renewables, hopefully that doesn't mean the Arctic once again becomes this so-called kind of sacrifice zone where its own local needs are sacrificed for the greater good.

It doesn't really matter.

This is, but it, it's good to give it its due because it's based on a, um, a, a folk music from the Sámi people in northern Finland, and they have a folk tradition called yoiking.

And basically, it's an improvised, nonsensical, um, set of syllables that come out.

Um, and, and this was a s- a, a version of a yoik.

But I don't know if you've seen the same in Sweden.

I know the territory of Sami people is spread across Norway and Sweden.

In the recent years, some big talked about exhibitions in Stockholm, for example, with Sami artists.

One that I saw that has been really highlighted felt like a modern expression, but with traditional craft techniques, I would say.

Exactly.

So I was in Northern.

Arctic Finland, which sometimes called Lapland, sometimes called Samia after the indigenous people there.

And I was in the middle of the winter because I felt like that's how you experience Arctic Finland.

It's cheating to go in the summer, right? So I realize I'm talking to a Canadian, so you know from cold, but boy, was it cold, okay? My Finnish friend, Mika, who I was staying with, when I was packing, I'm like, what should I bring? He said, bring the warmest clothes you own, period.