Sally Clark

so she's still going through the court process and he hasn't been discredited yet?

No, it was after she went to prison that all of that started to happen with Sally Clark and the other UK mums being released from prison.

And then Cathy was about 15 years after that.

Okay.

know.

Yes, I mean, but sometimes, remember Sally Clark?

Well, I did an inquiry into that whole business of the women who were convicted wrongly of killing their babies.

And, you know, the toll on their lives was so terrible.

I mean, Sally Clark Park ended up dead.

I feel for this woman because whatever happens... you know, the suffering that she's going through and will go through for the rest of her life can't be minimised.

On that note, we'll have to draw this episode to a conclusion and say it's been, for me, researching this has been a revelation.

The chance the defendant is guilty given the match is 1 in 10, not 1 in a million.

Sally Clark went to prison

on exactly this error.

That case still bothers me.

Bad medical decisions, bad investment decisions, bad policy decisions, wrongful convictions.

The list of harms from statistical misinterpretation isn't abstract.

The Sally Clark

case is the one that sticks with me.

I mean, this is, this is the most appalling Case, frankly, that you can imagine in a sort of any family court, isn't it? But I suppose what struck me is that we have come a long way, um, as a society, that we are prepared to argue it, see it in this way, that the jury's completely sort of humstruck by, by what to do on this.

Because it was 1999, which is what? 25 years ago, when Sally Clark, do you remember the mother of-

Yeah

... two children who both died of, it turned out, of a sort of heart defect related to cot death, was accused of, of shaking them, shaken baby syndrome.