Salisbury

And, uh, he was very decorated, um, war hero.

And so I was living in Salisbury, North Carolina at the time, where they have a national cemetery, and I'm friends with the supervisor there.

And I would tell him, "Any time you have a homeless veteran that's being buried that has nobody at their graveside, tell me.

I will come." It was right around the corner from where I lived.

Mm-hmm.

So he calls me and he tells me about this Second Lieutenant Fred Brewer that had been a Tuskegee Airmen that went missing, and he had been missing in action for, I don't remember the timeframe now, around 80 years.

And they had finally been able to identify him, and they were bringing him home, and home was Salisbury.

So this is a big deal that he's getting-

I g- I, my... [sighs] I, I was, uh, sportscaster of the year.

We go down to Salisbury, North Carolina, I believe it is.

We, we just get off the plane.

We start walking, and my wife goes, "Uh, I can't walk." I go, "Why?" "My feet hurt." "We just got here." "I know.

And I really didn't have an exact location.

The only exact location I had was my sister lives in Salisbury, North Carolina.

And I was going to stop by and say hi to her.

So that was the only location I actually had down there.

Where do you live?

Uh, Salisbury, North Carolina.

Salisbury.

Yeah, that's way cooler than China Grove.

[laughs] It definitely sounds better.

When you have to get groceries, Marcus, what's your go-to grocery store down there? Or up there.

Food Lion is the one that's...

Food Lion's the one that's headquartered in Salisbury and the closest for me.

Where'd you go to college?

Livingstone College in Salisbury, North Carolina.

Salisbury.

Is that where that came from? Salisbury Steaks? Do you know what a Salisbury steak is?

Yes, I do.

Did that come from? I do.

We have to guard the nation against its enemies, foreign and domestic.

And when you think about everything in nationalist terms, the first problem is in America, we're supposed to be a federal republic where you can have Salt Lake City and Seattle and and Salisbury, North Carolina, be very different places.

All be part of a country, but be able to do their own thing, which is not really what the national conservatives have in mind.

They argue that states and local communities should be able to do a fair amount unless they do something wrong, in which case the federal government should intervene, which is not really federalism at all.

I had a dream or idea of being like, okay, I want to be like what I see on MTV and like BET and stuff like that.

But me being from Salisbury, it was always like, how do I get to the big city? And I was like, okay, they film in New York, they film in California, they film in D.C., how am I going to get there? I was like, I felt like if I'm in North Carolina, I'm going to stay in North Carolina for the rest of my life.

But how do I get into like those fields? So never really thought about it.

But was always like this, I guess, but never really knew how to kind of put it into like a career or a job until later on.

You know, I see people from where I come from, we have the same kind of mindset, right? Like a small town and you're just trying to get to the big city.

And I feel like many times people are scared to make that leap.

So, like, what was that push inside of you? Like, what was that moment like when you said, okay, I got to get out of Salisbury?

I mean, I guess...

Yeah, there's a local, uh, track.

It's, um, in Salisbury, North Carolina.

I started at, uh, when I was five.

So I started really young.