Sakari Puisto

So they, they made a, they made a, uh, appointment, and they s- they, they, they got a room for us down in the basement, and, uh, and I met...

His, his name is Sakari Puisto.

He's, uh, he's an interesting guy.

And, uh, so I ha-- I don't know.

That's not too far off.

I mean, in fact, um, to go back to our previous thing, um, I was thinking about this Sakari Puisto was the name of the economics minister.

Um, you know, he's in a position of government power.

He's, he's a prominent guy in that country, and one advantage of a job like that is, you know, you have some clout, and if you ask for a meeting with some local dignitaries or whatever, you know, they'll sit down and talk to you.

I'm just known for more the theory stuff and libertarian stuff and intellectual property stuff.

But when I got there, I got a note from the organizer and he said, um, "There's the economics minister of Finland who would like to meet you in a private meeting." And I didn't know why.

I thought maybe he had me-- he pegged as a HAPA disciple or I was being tagging along with some other group.

I didn't know why, but he wanted to meet me.

Uh, he had been to Auburn for the Mises Institute back in two thousand and six.

Uh, he's a fairly young guy, but he's a very smart guy.

But he's the economics minister of the country who's in charge of innovation policy, and they ended up pulling into the room Adam Back and, um, uh, Marty, this... another big Bitcoiner and two or three other guys.

Um, and so he-- we had about a two-hour meeting with him and he was asking us all kinds of questions about tax policy and innovation policy and intellectual property and Bitcoin and Bitcoin farming and intell- and AI, AI training.