Saint George's Cross

Many of those protesting in France... did so either wearing the keffiyeh or waving the Palestinian flag.

If you go to some parts of Britain, you will find that the Palestinian flag is flown both more prominently and much more numerously than the UNJAC, the Cross of St. George or anything else.

Why the

Palestinian flag?

Many of those protesting in France did so either wearing the keffiyeh or waving the Palestinian flag.

If you go to some parts of Britain, you will find that the Palestinian flag is flown both more prominently and much more numerously than the Yunjak, the Cross of St. George or anything else.

Why the

Palestinian flag?

and that i keep coming back to that feeling that this is where we are where we were warning people about 10 years ago and yet we were made it was a gas lit to fuck 10 years ago we were made to feel like we were crazy or something But about your poem, Pessimism is for Lightweight, just a thing to throw at you both to just see how you feel about it.

I was having a conversation with my darling daughters recently about why it came up I think it was around we'd just driven through a small town in Devon and had seen all the flags everywhere and all of the like the mini roundabouts with the St George's Cross on them like they were bits of street art and we were talking about pessimism and optimism and my youngest daughter said to me you're a pessimist And I was like, I couldn't really fault her logic.

I am miserable.

But my partner said something quite interesting.

researching i'm uh i'm sprightly and i had to change my planned research this week oh really well i was going to do 40 files on patriotism and it ended up being quite the rant I've even worn like an England shirt.

I've got my St. George's Cross socks on.

I was really getting into the mood and I thought, I can't let this be coming out of my mouth on a Sunday.

Yeah.

And I'll remind... our longstanding viewers and perhaps inform viewers that haven't caught up with the show for some time.

The background here is that when you say that you had to pay for the taking down of these flags, I want to point out that you and your volunteers put around 200,000 of the St. George's Cross and the Union Jack flag up on lampposts around the country.

Oxfordshire County Council, Birmingham City Council, they claim that these are public safety issues and they are basically constrained by law to pull these flags down.

at your expense, whereas neighbouring councils, is it Cambridgeshire, have said we're not going to spend a single penny of taxpayers' money pulling these flags down because there's nothing wrong with them.

Britain, or to give it its legal term, the United Kingdom, appears at times to be splitting, or shall we say, devolving into its constituent nations, Scotland, Wales, Ireland, or Northern Ireland, and England.

And the Cross of St. George has featured prominently in demonstrations this year, upheld as evidence of a forgotten national identity or excoriated as a symbol of racism and division when associated with the issue of immigration.

One could say, and many have, it's a toxic symbol, uh, present, but it is actually the flag of England.

But in the ferocities of these current debates, would it not make sense to actually examine more, if you like, primordial ideas of what England was or perhaps is, which may help to give shape to what England might be or could be or perhaps should be? It is the historical examination of this concept and of the evidence remaining of it, for what it has done in the past and led to, and what it could hold for our future.

I beg your pardon, what did you say to me? Oh, the England flag.

There's a George's Cross up there.

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