... what is the hook volleyball has on you that has, you know, ler- turned into this great career for you?

I think that it's really evolved over time.

At first, I really enjoyed, like, the camaraderie and, uh, making friends.

Like even at home, a lot of my friends from there are all volleyball players.

Like that was my community, and that's something that I really thrive in and enjoy, just because our culture is centered so much around family and finding, you know, people around you that you can trust.

And so that was a really big thing for me all the way through college, and now it's kind of become, uh, like you figure out different strategies and now you're a puppeteer and you have to figure out how to get the best out of people, and you also have to figure out what your, uh, what your superpower is.

And that's always changing every single year and every single season.

And now, you know, from a Hawaii, Hawaiian standpoint, how has growing up in Hawaii shaped your identity and mindset?