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Safe and Secure Innovation for Frontier Artificial Intelligence Models Act

Safe and Secure Innovation for Frontier Artificial Intelligence Models Act

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Oct 18, 2026

Dave FarinaHOST
33:53
We can also expect any industry to fight tentative measures to impose real binding regulations.
Dave FarinaHOST
33:59
This is exactly what AI companies did when SB 1047, a proposed California bill, was tossed on their desks.
Dave FarinaHOST
34:07
Google opposed it directly, most concerning bill, well beyond federal measures, do not address industry concerns, unresolved problems, harm to R&D, and preferable approaches.
Dave FarinaHOST
34:20
Meta opposed it directly too, significant concerns, we like safety too, deters innovation, disproportionate obligations, jeopardizes small businesses, not ready to move forward.
Garrison LovelyGUEST
30:51
And then on the other side you had, you know, some corporate Democrats like Nancy Pelosi, uh, Zoe Lofgren.
Garrison LovelyGUEST
30:57
Ro Khanna also opposed SB 1047, although he has since regretted that publicly.
Garrison LovelyGUEST
31:04
The industry basically did not want to be regulated, but they especially did not want to have liability clarified because these AI companies operate in this kind of ambiguous zone where it's not clear who is liable when AI goes off the rails.
Garrison LovelyGUEST
31:20
And with this Hugging Face hack, we have a situation where crimes were committed.
Garrison LovelyGUEST
31:30
But to hack something, you need to have intent, and AI models can't have intent, it seems, under the law.
Garrison LovelyGUEST
31:38
So it creates this, like, massive gap in [chuckles] the legal code.
Garrison LovelyGUEST
31:42
And SB 1047 would not actually have covered that incident because the threshold was so high.
Garrison LovelyGUEST
31:48
It was, like, half a billion dollars in damages and mass casualties, um, which, you know, dozens of people, I think, would have had to have died and, and nobody died from that situation, and the economic costs were, were much lower.
Scott LewisHOST
54:09
Which is a felony.
Chris WardGUEST
54:10
[laughs] So, um- My colleague, hopefully soon Congressman, Scott Wiener, had a bill a couple years ago, SB 1047, the governor vetoed.
Chris WardGUEST
54:20
And that would've-
Scott LewisHOST
54:21
Yeah
Scott WienerSOUNDBITE_SPEAKER
66:48
problems.
Scott WienerSOUNDBITE_SPEAKER
66:51
When I authored SB 1047, the first bill in the country to propose regulating AI, we were told we were promoting science fiction and that we were trying to regulate math.
Scott WienerSOUNDBITE_SPEAKER
67:02
How times have changed.
Scott WienerSOUNDBITE_SPEAKER
67:04
AI is unbelievably powerful.
Gary MarcusGUEST
25:11
Had a, a bill that was gonna hold the companies liable for mas- mass casualty events.
Gary MarcusGUEST
25:17
And California had the SB 1047, um, that Scott Wiener in- introduced and I think got, if I remember correctly, got really weakened over time.
Gary MarcusGUEST
25:27
Um, and like the companies pushed back on it.
Gary MarcusGUEST
25:30
They didn't want to have liability for mass casualty ev...

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Chat GPTHOST
20:25
Look at California.
Chat GPTHOST
20:27
They recently passed a bill called SB 1047.
Chat GPTHOST
20:30
The core idea is to force the developers of the largest, most powerful AI models to implement incredibly strict safety protocols.
Chat GPTHOST
20:39
But the kicker is that the developers can actually be held legally liable if someone uses their model to cause catastrophic harm.
Garrison LovelyGUEST
13:45
And then on the other side you had, you know, some corporate Democrats like Nancy Pelosi, uh, Zoe Lofgren.
Garrison LovelyGUEST
13:51
Ro Khanna also opposed SB 1047, although he has since regretted that publicly.
Garrison LovelyGUEST
13:58
The industry basically did not want to be regulated, but they especially did not want to have liability clarified because these AI companies operate in this kind of ambiguous zone where it's not clear who is liable when AI goes off the rails.
Garrison LovelyGUEST
14:14
And with this Hugging Face hack, we have a situation where crimes were committed.
Garrison LovelyGUEST
14:20
The FBI was reported, uh, to by Hugging Face.
Garrison LovelyGUEST
14:24
But to hack something you need to have intent, and AI models can't have intent it seems under the law.
Garrison LovelyGUEST
14:32
So it creates this, like, massive gap in [laughs] the legal code, and SB 1047 would not actually have covered that incident because the threshold was so high.
Garrison LovelyGUEST
14:41
It was like half a billion dollars in damages and mass casualties, um, which, you know, dozens of people I think would have had to have died and, and nobody died from that situation, and the economic costs were, were much lower.
Garrison LovelyGUEST
6:31
And so I just kind of kept working at it.
Garrison LovelyGUEST
6:34
And I like to do a mix of like reporting on, you know, I've covered SB 1047, this AI safety bill in California, which was the first real flashpoint in the AI policy and regulation debates.
Garrison LovelyGUEST
6:48
And I covered that full time for a few months and it ended up being like just a few, maybe a thousand words in the book.
Garrison LovelyGUEST
6:54
But it gave me a really deep understanding of just how lobbying happens and how regulatory fights play out and the types of arguments that the industry makes and how it's just like every other regulatory fight.
Aalok MehtaHOST
45:52
Uh, it's interesting.
Aalok MehtaHOST
45:53
In, in some ways this feels a little like things have come full circle because, uh, you know, California passed this frontier AI law, SB53, that happened a year after this really heated discussion about another bill called SB1047.
Nicole HerreraHOST
46:10
Mm-hmm.
Aalok MehtaHOST
46:10
And one of the reasons that didn't pass is because there was a kill switch provision in there that people-
Aalok MehtaHOST
46:58
We had Brie Treece of, uh, Fathom to talk about the logic, um, and importance of IVOs on the podcast before.
Aalok MehtaHOST
47:06
Um, and this is just another indication of how this IVO concept is in-increasingly becoming sort of consensus at the state level and probably, um, of increasing interest at the, the federal level.
Aalok MehtaHOST
47:20
Um, in terms of, of what they put out, we know that after S-ten- SB1047, uh, the governor set up a similar sort of, uh, task force.
Nicole HerreraHOST
47:32
Right.
Garrison LovelyGUEST
19:45
And I kept doing other reporting projects.
Garrison LovelyGUEST
19:47
On top of that, one of the biggest runs of articles I did was covering SB 1047, which I think I was the only journalist covering that full time.
Garrison LovelyGUEST
19:55
And that was in the summer of 2024.
Garrison LovelyGUEST
19:59
And that was just really interesting to see the industry lobbying apparatus up close and doing a lot of quick turnaround and scoops and takes and That was, yeah, very informative to my kind of broader understanding of like what it will take to actually overcome the industry.

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