Saeed Jones

and threads made it sort of fertile ground for black Twitter.

And I, again, this is, I think, senior supervising producer Daisy sent this post from Saeed Jones on Blue Sky.

And I looked into it.

There were some, as controversies always are when you actually get to the main tweet that caused it.

They're all lies.

Saeed Jones was lying when he said he made out with you in the BuzzFeed dressing room.

All right, well, we'll see what happens.

How come you didn't sue Milo? You said you were going to sue him, right? I want to sue Milo.

They're all lies.

Saeed Jones was lying when he said he made out with you in the BuzzFeed dressing room.

All right, well, we'll see what happens.

How come you didn't sue Milo? You said you were going to sue him, right? I want to sue Milo.

And it feels like the environment, the news cycle, let's just say it, men are pushing us, pushing us against our limit.

Well, I'm Saeed Jones.

A man.

Allegedly

I didn't know if we could

talk about that.

Ah! Ah! It has been, I will have to say, Saeed Jones not only finished the book, but has done rounds of edits on the book very rapidly while doing the show twice a week, while teaching young people, while doing everything.

It's a

And so it just, it hit really close to home sometimes.

And then I think the other thing, I mean, I love so many things about the podcast, but these are the ones that have been specific to me that I really loved, is Saeed Jones, who's one of the hosts.

He is a writer and a poet, and he always shares a poem at the end of episodes.

And I have always been one who is not really into poetry, but in the last couple of years, I really... discovered that I don't really like reading poetry.

yeah

well let's do it i'm saeed jones and i'm zach stafford and you're listening to vibe check Today's episode, we're doing something a little bit different for the show.

And it's not just because we're only doing pop culture, which, as Saeed just mentioned, we really want to do now.

We're tired of the news.

We're tired of Trump.

My goodness.

But instead, we want to follow up to our Jesus episode, where I pitched Saeed that all the movies that we love are actually Jesus stories.

and expand upon that framework and actually bring in grief as a way of looking at movies.

Well, let's get into it.

I'm Saeed Jones.

And I'm Zach Stafford, and you are listening to Vibe Check.

Today's episode.

Well, let's get into it.

I'm Saeed Jones.

And I'm Zach Stafford.

And you're listening to Vibe Check.