Sabbatai Zevi
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Nov 2, 2026
Moshe TaraginHOST
He wrote a very famous Sefer in Torah called Yaros Devash.
Moshe TaraginHOST
But of course he's most well known or infamous for being accused as a Sabaite and as a Shabtai Tzvi by none other than Rabbi Yaakov Emden.
Moshe TaraginHOST
So he became known.
Moshe TaraginHOST
That was unfortunately his.
Aaron CohenHOST
But like names and dates and times.
Aaron CohenHOST
And he spoke with Shabtai Tzvi and this and this.
Aaron CohenHOST
Crazy stories.
Aaron CohenHOST
Crazy stuff.
ChanaGUEST
When the Baal Shem Tov came around in the 18th century, we were fresh after a very turbulent period for Jews in Europe.
ChanaGUEST
After the Chimonitzky Massacre, the Shabtai Tzvi, there was massive, massive disruption.
ChanaGUEST
And there was also this very classist... social situation with it from Jew between the learned people and the unlearned people.
ChanaGUEST
And the Baal Shem Tov kind of woke everyone up from that state.
Leo ZagamiGUEST
Yeah, do it, do it, do it, do it.
Leo ZagamiGUEST
So in this kind of situation, an older Sabbatai Zebi inevitably wanted to be the Messiah.
Leo ZagamiGUEST
But the input came from his father who worked for the English.
Seth HolehouseHOST
So do you think that the English, through the input through his father, helped kind of craft this story that Sabbate Zevi would become this Jewish messiah that then created...
Leo ZagamiGUEST
a little bit different.
Leo ZagamiGUEST
I will not say he was a disciple because he wasn't alive.
Leo ZagamiGUEST
He was born exactly 100 years later after Sabbatai.
Leo ZagamiGUEST
1626 and 1726.
Shaya KatzHOST
There are more loaded phrases here later on talking about sometimes you could even do Yisurim like that.
Shaya KatzHOST
which is very controversial, a controversial concept called antinomianism, which became controversial even more by Shabtai Tzvi, Matir Yisurim, for those familiar with that phrase and that controversy.
Shaya KatzHOST
But there are times, especially at a time of war, Melchizedek Mitzvah, you might be familiar with the halach of Eshes Yefas Tovar, so he brings up that kind of example, that there are other kinds of moments where you also, even then, have to b'chol d'ruchach ha'da'ehu.
Shaya KatzHOST
You have to understand Hashem in those ways also.
Makia FreemanGUEST
But the fact is, he really did great work in piecing together how this all developed.
Makia FreemanGUEST
Sabbatai Zevi, Jacob Frank, and... all of this so you know but but when i go back and look at what um antelman's view of gnosticism was it was very negative you know he believed that gnosticism was dangerous because it could replace um you know the one god of the jewish tradition with a hierarchy of god so you know he was he he was really devoted to monotheism and he's like oh gnosticism that's polytheism that's one reason he didn't like it um and then he had he had this word he kept using in his books antinomian And I hadn't really come across this word before.
Makia FreemanGUEST
I think it's one of these old fashioned words.
Makia FreemanGUEST
But if you look up what does antinomian mean, it kind of means something that goes against respected and traditional values or laws.
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Joey RosenfeldHOST
Shabtai Tzvi came and made the whole world crazy.
Joey RosenfeldHOST
Because what happened was, is that the deepest teachings of Kliniya Satora were manipulated.
Joey RosenfeldHOST
Back then, they were manipulated, meaning someone took the depth of the teachings, which convey this light of Hashem's presence, and instead of doing more Torah and mitzvahs with it, and following the rules given to us by the tzaddikim, he went his own way, as the Rishner says, his problem was he thought he had his own path, to asheret tzimimei darach.
Elchonon CohenHOST
And so therefore the Halakhic authorities all come to the conclusion that For someone to claim that they are doing something which is halachically prohibited, but they claim that they are doing it because they have the right intent and therefore it should be permitted, does not apply in today's day and age.
Elchonon CohenHOST
And it's very interesting to see some of the more uh recent by recent i mean within the last several centuries uh sources for this idea to see who it is that they were talking essentially against uh for example uh ram khal or moshe khan musato has a book called where he essentially is fighting against the concept of Shabtai Tzvi, because he lived shortly after that time period, and he makes this argument, basically, that the concept of Haver HaLashma no longer exists.
Elchonon CohenHOST
This was particularly misused by Shabtai Tzvi by basing himself off of so-called kabbalistic sources which was one of the reasons why Kabbalah became looked at very askance after his time period, until relatively recently, because he excused many of the things that he was doing by saying, oh, well, based off of Kabbalistic concepts, it should be, I'm permitted to do what I'm doing.
Elchonon CohenHOST
And so what Ramchal does essentially in Knesset Shem Tzavakos is discuss some of those Kabbalistic ideas and basically disprove those ideas.
Elchonon CohenHOST
In a slightly different context, Rav Chaim of Valazhin, this primary student of the Vilna Gaon, is quoted in the Sefer Keter Rosh.
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Joey RosenfeldHOST
Shabtai Tzvi came and made the whole world crazy.
Joey RosenfeldHOST
Because what happened was, is that the deepest teachings of Kliniya Satora were manipulated.
Joey RosenfeldHOST
Back then, they were manipulated, meaning someone took the depth of the teachings, which convey this light of Hashem's presence, and instead of doing more Torah and mitzvahs with it, and following the rules given to us by the tzaddikim, he went his own way, as the Rishner says, his problem was he thought he had his own path, to asheret tzimimei darach.
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