Who was the first guy to reach out to you that really, I guess, gave you a chance or helped you build this whole program?

Yeah, so when I was still playing, when I first started the business, like in college, a lot of guys that I played with in junior or whatever, or locally with, it kind of started segwaying into me running some skates for them instead of skating with them.

One of the big guys who's like my buddy, Cam Dineen, he plays basketball.

He was drafted by Arizona, played for them, played for Edmontons in the American League, and now he's just signed with the Flyers.

So he's been skating with me for a while.

But that didn't really start until a couple years into it.

I played with Cam.

And I'm sure it is on the coaches too because these kids are probably just hounding you at practice that they want to toe-drag everybody and do Michigans.

What's up with

him? It's horrendous.

And obviously, like I say, I am from a very beautiful part of the world.

It's very picturesque.

However, when it comes to sort of understanding culture and things, it's not as multicultural as some areas and some places.

So it's a little bit more misunderstood in that respect, just because...

A lot of people kind of conform and they all sort of do the same things or go to the same places or do the same clubs and stuff.

yeah so that's exactly that uh but when you think about it um we were saying that over 50 percent of our industry uh in construction are suffering with some form of neurodivergence and when you think about it what can individuals do do you think as a society Do you think we're more tolerant and understanding of those who have a neurodiverse effect on themselves, if you like? Or do you think we're getting better? Do you think we're getting better at understanding it? Or do you think we're still a blank page?