Ryan Gellert

I mean, you do start to see, like to your point, we're starting to see more action, you know.

Patagonia, Ryan Gellert, you know, they filed a lawsuit to protest the shrinking of Bears Ears.

So you...

And, and Patagonia has always been the tip-of-the-spear brand, I feel like, in a lot of the, in this case.

The proposal outlines 34 potential lease sales, 21 off Alaska, seven in the Gulf of Mexico, and six off California.

Today, we have Patagonia CEO Ryan Gellert, whom you just heard in the opening, and Surfrider CEO Dr. Chad Nelsen joining us to help understand what the environmental and economic impacts of this could mean.

My name is David Scales.

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want to hear from you please send me your emails myrockfight at gmail.com all right stick around the parting shots are on their way first up producer dave All right, guys.

Parting shot time.

And with me is the voice you've really been waiting to hear.

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Parting shot time.

But man, Surfrider.org is doing such good work.

I recently interviewed the CEO of Patagonia, Ryan Gellert, along with the CEO of Surfrider, Dr. Chad Nelson.

And we have a three-way conversation about offshore oil drilling proposals and Patagonia's kind of getting involved in environmentalism.

as a, you know, a clothing manufacturer and how they navigate that space at risk of alienating some clients and, um, you know, the decisions that they weigh along the way on what to be involved with and how, and it's really fascinating to hear Ryan speak on all that stuff.