Ruth Dahlquist-willard

Yeah, I would just say we were chatting about this a little bit, and we've done so many episodes that kind of touch aspects of this topic.

I do want to point out, if people are interested, we talked to Dr. Ruth Dahlquist-Willard in episode nine, way back in season one.

And that was about small farms specifically, and of course, Sigma in relation to them.

And then we've done a couple of episodes related to this issue of governance in small farms and who participates in governance and who potentially is left out and why.