Ruth Cohn

And when I say we, I'm talking about someone who's helping me now in this podcast.

And it is my wonderful friend, the lovely Stacey, who is not necessarily going to be on camera, although totally sometimes she can be, but she's going to be helping me guide it almost like an assistant.

We're trying it out.

I don't know if this is going to work.

So I was just talking about a little bit with, um, you know, what I didn't have after my mother passed away and my father was quite absent.

And I talked about kind of that emptiness, really the lack of nurturing, the lack of the pain and the trauma that I was going through being witnessed.

And this is where I really loved the work of a dear friend, Ruth Cohen.

She's actually the leading world expert in the trauma of neglect.