Russian roulette

So during their real crime, Rubens, who is Marcelo's husband, testified that the kidnappers put a gun in his mouth.

And at another point, he said they played Russian roulette with him and his five-year-old son, Ryan, which was partly portrayed in the film, but is also just... fiercely disturbing.

When you learned those details, did you, did that change your understanding of the people involved in like how much darker it really was?

Yeah, it definitely did.

I mean, to play Russian roulette with a child is, you know, it can't get much darker than that.

But I think, you know, having to make a Character choice of, you know, where did that come from? Is this person just inherently evil? Or is it, you know, how desperate am I trying to get this money out of this family? What am I willing to, you know, gamble with the life of their child? And even to the point where if that's not enough, they're still only saying they have this much money, then okay, that must be true.

But yeah, I mean, that is... horrendous you know act um and it's unforgivable in a sense right like you know sure there's whatever if you want to play a game of odds with Russian roulette there's still the chance that that can go off and harm if not kill the child so right yeah it's definitely um a difficult thing to try to comprehend and empathize with but but again like the decision is just how I believe that my understanding for that was okay well we just need to terrify the as much as we can and this is a yeah this is advice for that

because marcella later told the police that she could hear her husband crying and she could hear the gun the click click click like that kind of you know that that sort of terror it's like true terrorism to to frighten people like that and she has um in the um She gave an impact statement when Sanchez and Santiz, who were the other two, your counterparts, during the trials, in the impact statement, she said that her son still couldn't go outside, that he primarily stays inside.

But to the outside observer, so the pursuit of frontier AI models and superintelligence does feel a little reckless.

Are these companies playing Russian roulette with us?

Well, I don't think they're actually behaving in a completely irresponsible way.

The more details we hear, for example, about this recent incident where OpenAI broke into Hugging Face, stole passwords to get in.

Interesting, this simulation wasn't that much better, even though 55% right is still way over betting.

It turned out well is not a theory for doing something, right? Playing Russian roulette and pulling the trigger and saying it turned out well.

Well, you don't want to pull the trigger six times because you're guaranteed a certain event will happen.

Yeah, it does look like a meme coin chart.

But man, is it tiring.

Feels like every night, Anna and I are kind of playing Russian roulette to be like, okay, which kid is gonna show up in the middle of the night with some kind of need or just simply wanting to snuggle? Anna and I feel like we're in a season in many ways where you're just functioning with like different levels of exhaustion.

Never quite getting out of it, but just one level of exhaustion to another.

Anna was recently asked, so Anna, when was the last time you got a good night's sleep? I mean, moms are already laughing.