Rubinho

And you're like, no. You're at City and he's like...

What? What's that? We did dodge a bullet there, though, to be fair, didn't we? Rubinho? In the end.

Yeah, the only thing with that was it sort of started the players going to say, I don't think anyone's losing sleep over not having Rubinho.

I also mean good stuff off the pitch.

That's what I mean.

The 70 is not cursed.

Because even Rubinho could score in the 70, so it can't be.

It can't be cursed.

let's move on to the let's move on to the good stuff let's talk about the good stuff okay so so um twice a year uh this fixture rolls up it's the most i think exciting fixture on the calendar it is of course the derby de la madonna um which is an incredibly special match It's a game between two city rivals, two clubs that have won 10 Champions League between them, 40 Scudetti, absolute icons of Italian gaucho, as well as world football.

Is Neymar better than

Rubinho? Yes.

I don't

think that's true.

He's better than Rubinho.

You can't say this in Santos.

I can say this.

Because the game, I used to watch AC Milan at 20.

Remember Rubinho? Yeah.

I used to watch Rubino at AC Milan, obviously Ibrahimovic.

Dude, they had good teams.

Some of them might not have known, but I mean, listen, at the end of the day, these players are all achieving a dream, right? I will put it this way.

Rubinho thought he was signing for Manchester United.

But I think subsequently we've learned things about Rubinho that would suggest to us that he might not be the brightest bulb in the package.

is...

The brightest, dullest bulb in the jail cell.

When you look at when Man City initially, because Man City, let's be honest, and I'll say this with all due respect, they were not a particularly dangerous team pre-2009.

I had them in the same kind of category as Fulham Blackburn around that time like they were a mid table team that could finish anywhere between like 15th and 8th that's kind of what they were like Premier League mid table fairly solid team but nothing truly exceptional you know I remember when they were like their best player was Richard Dunn yeah They weren't an amazing side, but then they got that money and the first thing they did was, I remember them buying players like Rubinho, David Silva, but they picked players from the Premier League, the best players from the likes of Aston Villa, Everton.

I remember they took the likes of Gareth Barry, Rocco Santa Cruz.

Later years, they took the likes of Fabian Dell from Aston Villa, Scott Sinclair from Swansea, Wilfred Bonney from Swansea.

What do you think, James?

I don't know.

I mean, those players, like I say, I remember when this all started off and they were signing the likes of Rubinho and Nasri and, you know, players from across the league who would have been on mega amounts of money.

And I mean, I don't want to believe that they had any suspicion that there was wrongdoing involved.