Good morning.

Good morning.

But basically, Nick, I was saying that I just feel that, you know, the police have drifted somewhat away from the kind of core action to arrive at a scene, ask questions of both sides at an incident and deal with the basics.

And it seemed like those basic questions, tasks have been clouded by concerns about whether they're going to be accused of racism because they don't deal with somebody from an ethnic minority with kid gloves and in a different way.

And I think even the government has recognised that the public have been left wondering whether the police have drifted from what their core duties are.

What is common sense policing to you?

It's kind of hard to describe.

It's treating people fairly.

Cannot.

Well, I, I'm not here to defend them, uh, Jeremy.

I thought it was sickening incompetence.

Their first duty should have been to make sure that no one was injured.

Uh, that i- that included, um, the, the, the, the person who was alleging that he had been assaulted, but also the man who was lying on the groundClearly, evidently, from plain as day, in a very, very distressed state.

And, um, for, for them to do such a, a cursory examination and assume that he was lying or that he was... presumably that they must have thought he was drunk or, uh, or feigning injury.

But there was sickening incompetence there without any shadow of a doubt.

So common sense, and anything normal, has gone out the bloody window, Roy.

Tell us a bit about where Palmer really fits into this story.

Well, Palmer had clearly been involved in melting the gold, changing its identity.

Uh, the, you know, there were these gold bars, each of them numbered, each of them showing, uh, an incredible purity, and it had to change.

They couldn't, they couldn't do anything with it, so it had to be melted down.

So Palmer had a, a smelter, uh, in his home down in Bristol.

He was involved in smelting the gold, changing its identity, and ironically, send, selling it back to Johnson Matthey a- and to other bullion dealers.

So, you know, it, it come full circle.

But eventually, the judge lost his patience with him.