Roy Bhaskar

I mean, it's fun, but I don't think it's the way that language It's an exaggeration of how language could work or something like that.

I could imagine a hylo-semiotic informed science fiction that gives us a better sense about how translation would work in an intergalactic future without reducing everything to English or imagining that translation is itself impossible and that language fully determines thought, but how it might produce new kinds of misunderstandings as well as allow certain kinds of linguistics or communicative systems that are not merely verbal.

Or something like that.

I would hope it could have echoes and reverberations.

And then when you spell that out, then we can have a more nuanced conversation.

Yeah.

Yeah, well, I mean, my first answer building on Bhaskar, you know, so visionary realism, obviously, it builds a lot on Bhaskar.

And so I would say the real in contrast to the demi real, what Bhaskar calls the demi real.