Like how do you guys navigate these spaces, and is it something that, you know, women can do to- ... be easier to approach.

Yeah, I mean, I think, I think women in, in those spaces have, like, all the cheat codes.

You know, they're, like, very accepted in their sexuality, and especially in that environment they're celebrated in that.

So you have a lot less of the societal bullshit that gets in the way of that for women.

So go for it, you know? The way that my partnership works is we like to play together.

And, um, you know, as far as, like, asking for what I want in relationship, I was talking to all of my potential partners before Eden came along, being like, "I need a partner who, uh, is this and this and will have threesomes with me." And, like, that was a hard, like, clarity moment that I wanted from relationship.

So I got that, and Eden and I love doing that.

How did, how did you overcome it?

Hmm.

So it wasn't Like, uh, you know, taking away your choice very blatantly through force or anything like that.

It was the typical nice guy, like, bullshit of, of trying to maneuver and manipulate.

And, um, now, you know, the whole, the whole arc of being a slut and then trying to be more and more ethical about it has really taken me through a lot of different transformations.

Yeah, one of the more recent ones over the last, like, five or 10 years has been about this idea of privilege, right? So, you know, when we were talking about the pickup artists and this earlier generation, it was all about persistence and being bold with your asks, and I, I still advocate being bold with your asks.

Um, but something that I started to discover as I became more charismatic and more well-spoken and able to connect was that the, the privilege makes it harder for people to say no to you.

And I wasn't so aware of that.

Mm