Ross Brawn

Peter Nikolov, question 105, but you are a channel member, Peter, so absolutely no problem.

The absence of Pat Simmons and Ross Brawn seems to be noticeable.

At the start of the season, there was talk that the current rules weren't written competently enough.

Well, there was a lot of talk from us, Mark and I, about the rules not being competently enough, mainly around the lack of thought given to destroying a lot of the great corners in Formula One.

So the FIA, if the teams had said to the FIA before the season started, and by the way, our simulations have shown that if we're doing this on the formation lap, in the wet, on intermediates, on this sort of circuit, we're going to have a problem.

Absolutely for sure the FIA would have got it sorted pretty quickly and written the rules.

And I don't think that's the Ross Brawn, Pat Simmons era versus the current era.

I think it's just that the teams at the moment were so occupied with trying to get their head around the new regs anyway that they weren't able to think as laterally as they should in terms of all the things that could potentially go wrong.

So everyone worked hard to try and find a new buyer.

I found two for the team, but eventually called Ross Brawn and he said, I've bought it for a pound.

Okay, good.

But the resilience through that period for everyone, it was resilience, but it was also, it was belief that we could achieve if we were given the tools to do it.

And we were given those tools by a fantastic car.

and the best pound Ross Brawn ever spent as well.

Amish, resilience in business, it's what we're hearing from Jensen here.

And just that example is bang on, isn't it? Look, I spent

I think he became like a de facto team principal.

But it's Ross Brawn, isn't it? But he was technical director at Benetton, technical director at Ferrari, was technical director at Honda, team principal for one year at his own team.

That's a bit of a technicality.

But I don't think he was...

I might be wrong though.

Was he team principal at Mercedes? But he'd left as soon as they started winning titles or just after? So, he's like, but I think he's a special circumstance because, like I said, he's technical director.

That's like if Adrian Newey does it now, well, probably not titles in the near future there, but if he does it, he'll be doing what Ross Brawn did.

It won't be a first, I think.

Eu quando, quando dou comigo a ver, pá, o Spice Boy se calhar punha aquilo tudo na ordem.

Se calhar punha o Ross Brawn-

Eu por acaso acho que não.

Eu por acaso acho que não.

And it's no accident, I think, that Ferrari have been most successful in the last 25 years or so at a time when the upper management of the company was kept at arm's length by the race team.

You know, Jean Todd, Ross Brawn, Rory Byrne, Michael Schumacher were a very strong collective.

And whenever there was any sense of one of them being under threat in some way or another, the others would gather around them and make it clear that if something happened to them, then they were all out too.

And that's the kind of, well, it's obviously not great that you've got that situation in the first place, but if you've got that situation, you've got to have that coach within the team.

And that has been a topic of conversation, gentlemen, in the paddock.

Now, when they first started sprints, I remember, do you remember Ross Brawn said, we'll only hold them on places where you can overtake? What's changed? Do you want me to answer that one?

Yeah.

It's lateral thinking.

...é, mas teve um, uma reação relativamente ponderada em que fala sobre a questão cultural da própria equipa.

E isto é algo que remonta há muitos anos e se forem ler o livro do Ross Brawn, é algo que ele também já referia nessa altura, que é, é, é que é a questão da cultura da equipa ser completamente diferente daquilo que se passa nas outras equipas, é, da Fórmula 1, nomeadamente as que estão baseadas no Reino Unido.

Portanto, vamos ver o que é que se vai passar nos próximos tempos, mas acho isto só completamente extemporâneo e estapafúrdio.

No entanto, continuando aqui na Ferrari, é, vamos já e passando já, é, há, um pouco a antevisão do Grande Prêmio de Baku, é, a Ferrari vai, em princípio, é, penalizar o Charles Leclerc, que tinha a unidade motriz em Monza, é, com o desenvolvimento do ADU 2 e, em princípio, vai penalizar, é, em Baku.

And...

Certainly, Ross Brawn was discussed.

I think he made your list.

Colin Chapman did as well.

Yeah, I've got Adrian Newey, which I feel like is a bit of a given.

I've got Ross Brawn.

I've got Colin Chapman.

And I've got Murray Walker.

You don't want to make, you know, he's on everyone's list.

Yes, very true.

Ross Brawn made your list.

Yeah, Ross Brawn, you know, the impact that he has most prominently at Ferrari, of course, is pretty astounding the way that he's a key part of that career.