
Ross Barnes
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Aug 23, 2026
E160 - Guests: Ross Barnes, Applied AI & Agentic System Expert & Neurodiversity Coach
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Bob JudsonHOST
Can you just talk about that a little bit and just, just give a bit of an explainer, as it were, as to where, where we've come from, where we're going and, uh, and you know, how that's all panning out?

Ross BarnesGUEST
So we, we are moving from LLMs, which are chatbots, which are trained on lots of, um, lots of knowledge.

Ross BarnesGUEST
Um, and they give you a response based on that knowledge, um, of what they have been trained on.

Ross BarnesGUEST
We then moved into, uh, GPTs or a- light agents who you could train on your own data.

Ross BarnesGUEST
So you could upload a spreadsheet, you could upload something and give it extra context that it could hold about what you or your organ- organization wanted to achieve.

Ross BarnesGUEST
Then you move on to agentic, which is where the agents are talking to each other and sharing context about their role and about their knowledge with another agent who knows what it's supposed to do with that.
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From $80M To $1B: The Scaling Lesson That Now Applies To Every AI Workflow
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Ross BarnesGUEST
And look, I mean, let's not dwell too much on that word, but I think you're right.

Ross BarnesGUEST
Look, we've had scams like this since the days of the Nigerian princes, and even before.

Ross BarnesGUEST
And our responsibility, I think, as people who work in tech, is to try and help people use them for good.
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Ryan EstesHOST
What about the AI doomers? What percentage of people are you coming in contact with that are like adamantly against it?
Why Most Companies Create Their Own AI Bottleneck - Says Ross Barnes
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Ross BarnesGUEST
[laughs] Um, Ikig- Ikigai is, um, a Japanese principle of, um, successful living.

Ross BarnesGUEST
So how you can find a way to live so that you can find a job, purpose, vocation that can do four things.

Ross BarnesGUEST
Something you're good at, something the world needs, something you can get paid for, and I always forget the fourth one.
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