Rory Kennedy

And I know that some of them, in particular, named names.

And we thought that Rory was maybe going to, Rory Kennedy, who produced it, was going to maybe name some names, but she didn't.

I think HBO backed out.

At the end, they did this wind-up, and they had the same old people talking, and you had two of the biggest perpetrators there saying, I didn't do a thing, or I'm not going to talk about it.

My country's on fire, and I'm going to go out and do something about it.

Your sister Rory, who's a wonderful documentary filmmaker, directed a documentary called Ethel in 2012.

Your mom participated in that.

What did you feel was left unsaid or was still ready to be explored that wasn't perhaps in the documentary?

But also, she was always more interested in the people who are struggling and who had made it on their own power.

It struck me, and I want to talk more about how Ethel's childhood and those experiences shaped her to become the woman she ultimately did.

But when I asked you that question of Rory, I thought, well, you know, they say every child has a different relationship with his or her parents.

And I'm curious, Carrie, what was unique about your relationship with your mom versus any of your siblings?

Alec Baldwin.

Alec Baldwin is the subject of a new documentary called directed by Rory Kennedy, who is one of the daughters of Robert F. Kennedy and Ethel Kennedy.

Okay.

This documentary is called The Trial of Alec Baldwin.

And trust me, you don't want me to because if I do that, she'll just go in even harder.

Anyway.

Rory Kennedy has directed a documentary called The Trial of Alec Baldwin because trial, the real person, the real victim here is not Helena Hutchins, the young wife and mother of a 10-year-old boy who Alec Baldwin shot dead recklessly, my opinion, on the set of Rust where the armorer had no business running that show, no business.

And she just gave an interview to The Hollywood Reporter.

She was born in 1968, married, three kids, documentary filmmaker.

Rory Kennedy is the youngest grandchild of Joseph and Rose.

So the matriarch, patriarch of this whole family, this is the youngest child, 1968.

So that's where we close that generation.

Sadly, her wedding to Mark Bailey in 1999 is the destination that JFK Jr. was flying to when he was killed in the plane accident.

Oh, man.

So Rory Kennedy, it was her wedding.

And we will obviously get to that very close to the end.