Ron Warmington

and eventually got so Wynne Williams, Judge Wynne Williams ran the public inquiry into the Horizon system.

At my instigation, I mean, the forensic accountants put into find out what was wrong with the post office horizon system they were my recommendation that's Ron Warmington and Second Sight they wrote me out of that they wrote me all out of that because by the time that was becoming public more than 10 years later I was also on to the Covid cover-up

and

they wouldn't give me the justification of being proved right on the post office horizon after 10 odd years or HS2 because the political reasons.

I'd said it all in 2008.

12 to 2014 in the House of Commons.

Then I went to all the journalists with all the evidence, with the Fujitsu whistleblower, which had been leaked to me by Ron Warmington, who was the investigator, and everything of that.

And I realised, you know, Oliver Letwin was the...