Roman Reigns

It is basically the...

I get excited for a Roman Reigns RAW, but because of his year spent mostly as a giant fraud, there's no guarantee that his appearance will pop, right? And there'll be a, a hotter crowd for it, but there's no guarantee that the actual creative and the-

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Some of the matches on tonight's SmackDown actually feed into that card as well.

Okay.

And then Monday night, small matter of Roman Reigns versus Penta.

Yeah, it's, um-

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Roman Reigns is just about to get beat off Spider-Man.

He's like, "Ah, ah, ah." Spider-Man takes the fall, but come back 2000 to see what happens.

Doc Ock.

I think the place where we've had conversations with them, like I said, around locations.

I also think it's helped us, there's been examples where even with the Raw coming up in a couple weeks, right? It's, it's leading to a big Roman Reigns heavyweight championship ma- match after this tournament that they've done.

The ability for us to promote three, four weeks out for a big Raw, you know, starting off the year I think it was, it was Bron Breakker and CM Punk in the, our first Raw of the year.

That's the type of conversations we've had where either it's, "Hey, can you potentially go to this city?" Or, "Hey, if there's a big match up can you let us know three, four, five weeks in advance so we can start promoting that outside of the PLAs you normally do, you know-

It didn't give me match order of the night, but here we go.

The Rock versus Roman Reigns.

It says, "This is the one.

If you're asking me to put money on one WrestleMania 43 match six months out, it's this.

They come out of retirement for a lot of dollars, and I understand why, but this one has...

It has a lot of build behind the scenes for it because fans have been talking about this forever, and we should have gotten it at WrestleMania 40, but the fans said, "No, we want Cody," and they got Cody, obviously.

So The Rock and Roman Reigns, it could happen this year.

It just, it's very interesting to see would Rock come back as the final boss? Would he just be Dwayne again with his jumpsuits and making, uh, making his catchphrases appealing to the fans? I don't know.

Wait, wait, wait, wait.

Why did your rendition of Roman Reigns' theme turn into the Ghostbusters theme there at the end? Dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun.

Dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun.

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It's not as good as, or it's not as bad.

No, don't, don't put it, don't.

It's not as bad as Roman Reigns in 2015 Royal Rumble, okay? That's bad bad.

That's bad no matter what.

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It sounds like it's coming out of the face of, uh, Andre the Giant or Roman Reigns or something.

I-

But it's this little Kyler Murray.

I think the place where we've had conversations with them, like I said, around locations, I also think it's helped us.

There's been examples where even with the RAW coming up in a couple of weeks, right? It's leading to a big Roman Reigns heavyweight championship match after this tournament that they've done.

The ability for us to promote three, four weeks out for a big RAW, you know, starting off the year, I think it was Braun Breaker and CM Punk and our first RAW of the year.

That's the type of conversations we've had where either it's, hey, you potentially go to this city or, hey, if there's a big matchup, can you let us know three, four, five weeks in advance so we can start promoting that outside of the PLEs you normally do, you know, on a RAW.

And while that kind of makes sense, the popularity dips because let's be honest.

Roman Reigns still sells tickets in an era where the veil is gone, but Roman Reigns looks, walks, talks, and does things in the ring that Roman Reigns would do in the ring.

Right.

And that's why people from the old generation are trying to get people like Raquel Rodriguez.

Right.

Ring of Honor at its absolute peak was paying the Young Bucks, as their top guys in the tag division coming in from the outside, $500 a night.

So you think about where – like Tony Khan skewed even the fans' belief of what a professional wrestler who isn't a Roman Reigns, who isn't a Seth Rollins, who isn't a Stone Cold Steve Austin, a Rock, a Hogan, all that, yada, yada, et cetera.

This never used to be a livable thing in one place.

Like...

It's literally like next year in Saudi Mania when they have Rock versus Roman, and it's like, oh, this is Rock passing the torch to Roman Reigns, who's main evented the last eight fucking ten fucking WrestleManias.

All

right, so here's what's funny, okay? Your points are so valid that it actually has me thinking, which, by the way, is good because that doesn't happen a lot.

You know, it's – anyway.

uh no good one so keith two good ones uh yours was very good mine was more of a venting um but now i want to do two like quick hits so in a wonderful world of wrestling there's always takes on the internet um and so two since our last episode came up that i just want to get your quick opinion on so we're going to start off with uh conrad thompson and it might piggyback a little bit on your rock thing i guess I guess you men of stature have a thing against Samoan people.

But anyway, Conrad Thompson says in his podcast, Roman Reigns is the most overrated superstar in the history of wrestling.

What's your thought on that? Because a lot of people lay ambassador for that.