Roger Ridley

And I said, "Okay, what?" He said, "I found out who the other musician was.

Um, his name is Roger Ridley, and I wanna show Calem when we get, I get home from work." So when my husband came home from work, Calem sat on my lap.

My husband pulled up the, the video of Roger Ridley- And Kalem got super excited, like very happy.

And so we're all looking at each other like, "What is this?" And we got his FC board, and he typed, "I'm so happy to see my f- my friend again." And we said, "Your friend?" And he said, "Yeah, I saw him when I was with God." And we thought, okay.

Well, we came to find out after that, that Roger Ridley died the year before Kalem had his accident.

Hmm.

Wow.

[gentle music] It was a sort of like a near-death experience for you, Kalem? 'Cause a lot of people have this experience where they go somewhere and come back, and they explain that being, uh, quite a significant experience.