Rodri

And I think if you're looking at it purely on who's the best player in the world, I think Messi played at a level which would have still had people thinking and saying at the time, is he still the greatest? So no issues there.

Rodri, unbelievable at the World Cup.

Unbelievable at the World Cup.

World Cup winner.

They didn't go, didn't they? They boycotted it.

Yeah, when Rodri won it, didn't they? With Lemieux and Jamal, my gripe is that whoever wins the World Cup in that year, one of their players will win the Ballon d'Or.

But he didn't have...

He didn't have an incredible World Cup, Jamal.

If you go back and you look at the list of, let's go, recent history that aren't Messi and Ronaldo, right? And there's not a lot of players in recent history outside of them, obviously because they dominated.

Who is considered got a hot market? Rodri, Dembele, Modric.

Um, Kaka, Kanabara, Ronaldinho, Shevchenko.

None

It's not a recent development.

Like I mentioned those players before that won the Ballon d'Or.

Rodri, you could pretty easily say, is the best defensive midfielder the game has seen in the last five years or so.

He's won a Ballon d'Or, won a Euros, won a World Cup with Spain.

Miami ho and a Brent.

And so Rodri, a Brent who is not kind.

Deema Barcelona.

Nah, Frank bobokwana.

Yeah, I mean, those defensive troubles we've seen slightly improve at the start of the season for Barcelona compared to last season.

I think Rodri coming in has massively helped them.

But at the same time, there's still worries there.

I look at the full-back situation.

I say, though, my man of the match was Chouameni.

Yeah.

I thought Chouameni, in a game especially against Rodri, where all the noise we were saying all season, Real Madrid miss a player like Rodri, they should have signed a player like Rodri.

Let's not forget, Rodri was meant to come in to replace Chouameni.

Yeah

... you had every chance in the world to take Rodri and Pedri off and go and rest them.

Mm.

When you played, uh, the, the, the game against Betis-

Mm.

And it was in that game that you say you want can do rotation.

You say you they re- rest Rodri to come and dominate this game.

[laughs]

Arranca la ceremonia, cuatro nosotros, arranca la ceremonia del Balón de Oro en Londres.

¿Quién ganará el Balón de Oro? ¿Mbappé? ¿Lamine Yamal? ¿Harry Kane? ¿Habrá sorpresa? Sabemos que Messi no será porque Messi está aquí en Miami, pero ¿quién será? ¿Rodri de repente como sorpresa? Bueno, hablaremos de eso y mucho más.

Además de que el fin de semana ganó River y ganó Boca.

Sí.

¿Qué tenés? Pará, te voy a nombrar rápidamente.

Ajá.

Vitinha, Vinicius Junior, Dayot Upamecano, Ferran Torres, William Saliba, Fabián Ruiz, Rodri, Declan Rice, Ju-Julián Quiñones, William Pacho, Michael Olise, João Neves, Lionel Messi, Nuno Mendes, Kylian Mbappé, Sadio Mané, Marquinhos, Lautaro Martínez, Lamine Yamal, Khvicha Kvaratskhelia, Harry Kane, Achraf Hakimi, Erling Haaland, Gabriel, Ousmane Dembélé, Luis Díaz, Bruno Fernandes, Pau Cubarsí, Marc Cucurella y Jude Bellingham.

Muy bien.

I think there was a lot of players that had quiet games.

Some of their defenders, they don't look the same since they've lost Rodri.

They've been unbeaten in the league up until Saturday, but they're in sort of a little transition themselves.

New manager, all this stuff going on in the background.

Cancelo.

Then Pedri, Rodri and Lopez.

And then Lamal, Rafinha and Gordon.

I thought that looks dangerous.