What were your hopes and fears maybe as we began our work, and how were you thinking about success as we embarked on this journey of intentionally sharpening your leadership?

A lot of it was building my own personal confidence through knowledge.

I'm the type of person that I do a lot of research.

I'm a research personality, and going into this program, I felt like I was going to be a very low level person in this large group of CEOs, but really I realized that we were all human and we all make mistakes and we're all learning together.

So getting the confidence in this and growing with our cohorts was really, I would say the best part of it.

Realizing that the thoughts that I had about myself isn't what that cohort thought about me.

It's not what Dusty thought about me.

But what do people first say when you're actually giving them kind of the decoder ring for Rodney and how you lead people and organizations?