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... do any, do anything for us.

If, if anything, it's, uh, made it more difficult for me to find another, um, position in, in, in the Rochester, New York community, um, doing what I wanna do.

Um, and there's certainly no protections coming from Congress.

There's no financial incentive.

There's no, um...

All I can u- all I can do is use my, my reputation that I've built, um, as a veteran counselor, and my experience, and, and my, my very sound military record, you know, honorable discharge, uh, lots of awards for my work as an aviation ordnanceman, and then two years in the Army National Guard and the Air National Guard here in New York as, um, some type of validation.

Hmm.

Hmm.

I have to say that.

Um, 'cause I do have very, very clear memories of, of many things from back then.

Um, you know, my daughter was also born in '97, you know, very close to that deployment.

She was born March 14th, 19- 1997.

Um, very clear memories of that situation, but if I go back to the deployment, um, there are some gaps.

And I'm, I'm diagnosed with tinnitus, you know, which is a ringing in the ear, um, which does interfere with thinking sometimes.

Right.