Robert Richter

Okay.

Was that with the assistance of Michael? Of Michael and Robert.

Robert Richter, okay.

Thank you.

And just another formality question, and it's a little bit silly because you've already read it out yourself, but it's simply attesting to the truth of the statement, that's all.

The sacristans and the assistants would be bringing the chalice and the vessels out from the altar.

Now I was always accompanied by my Master of Ceremonies after the Mass.

So he would come around with me and help me, and Robert was just the protocol, and then we would both go off together.