Robert Morris

You can't write a manifesto anymore.

If you came out with something like what Robert Morris wrote about minimalism back in, it was the, the '60s.

Mm-hmm.

I think people would, they would just be confused because you could do anything.

Where did you see his work? The first time was at Virginia Museum of Fine Arts, because the Sidney and Francis Lewis collection, which had examples of Kiefer and Warhol and Twombly...

Alongside conceptual artists like Robert Morris and Sol LeWitt and minimal and conceptual artists like Donald Judd, my work is caught between the more expressive space and also the deliberateness, which is minimal or conceptual.

It's this articulation of both at once.

You also have printed out photos of graffiti on city walls here in your studio.

One was our partnership with the National Gallery on the first Southeast Asian survey of minimalism kind of back in 2018, 2019.

And, you know, that had never happened in the region before and being able to kind of bring kind of Asian art into dialogue with, you know, kind of the greats of Western minimalism like Donald Jard and Robert Morris and others.

And the likes was a real thrill.

And for our iteration of that, we also showed that perhaps more contemporary practitioners like Oliver Eliason or Samson Young could be read as part of that kind of minimalism approach.