Robert Jackson
Lawyer and former Associate Justice of the Supreme Court of the United StatesWikipedia
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Nov 3, 2026
SeanHOST
Well, like billions of people believe what they can approve.
Eric RacheffHOST
Justice Robert Jackson said he saw in their teachings, and I quote, nothing but humbug untainted by any trace of truth.
Eric RacheffHOST
But they both still wanted the whole case thrown out because prosecuting beliefs is... is pretty much against the American
SeanHOST
way.
Natalie LivingstoneGUEST
You know, of course, you know, when it's brought into human hands, that's a different matter.
Natalie LivingstoneGUEST
But yes, you know, when you look at and you read Robert Jackson's speech, when he speaks about staying the hand of vengeance and the most significant tribute that power has ever paid to reason.
Natalie LivingstoneGUEST
There really is a huge amount of sense and optimism and humanity in that.
Andrew RobertsHOST
Natalie Livingstone, author of Women of Nuremberg and chair of the Clifton Literary Festival, thank you very much indeed for coming on Secrets of Statecraft.
Thomas777GUEST
That's not just, that wasn't just some campaign trail neologism that, uh, Mr. George Herbert Walker Bush coined in, you know, 1988, '89.
Thomas777GUEST
It, uh, it, it, it w- it w- conceptually, it was, it, it, it, it owed, uh, its origin to, uh, you know, the, the writings of, uh, of Cordell Hull and, uh, Henry Morgenthau, who's, you know, an ominous character who we We, uh, we've discussed in earlier episodes, as well as Justice Frankfurter and Justice Jackson, who we're probably not gonna get too much into this episode.
Thomas777GUEST
But my point is that, [sniffs] um, the idea of an old world order, um, which was the, uh, emergent with, uh, you know, kind of the, uh, the, you know, the, the, uh, not just what's known as the Enlightenment era kind of in, in, in, in commonly accepted, uh, court history, but also like the Age of Exploration, [sniffs] you know, and, uh, and, and kind of the, the, the conquest of the planet quite literally by European powers.
Thomas777GUEST
Um, what was implemented therein and, and how, how affairs were managed between states, [sniffs] you know, particularly matters of war and peace.
1 HR 4 MINS LATER
Thomas777GUEST
Um, and, uh, in our next episode, I want to wrap up in a minute, because I think I just threw a lot at our listeners.
Thomas777GUEST
[laughs] Frankly, like, I think it'll work out.
Thomas777GUEST
Um, I want to talk about how Justice Jackson, who quite literally was a small-town American lawyer who became a judge, um, never graduated law school, incidentally, because once upon a time, you learned to practice law by practicing law, and then you, you know, were admitted by a bar, uh, kind of like a guild of sorts, um, you know, nobody went to law school.
Thomas777GUEST
Um, but that's, that's interesting in its own right, because, uh, I, I, uh, I, um, that, that's a huge change compared to the way things are structured today.
Thomas777GUEST
But it goes to show you just kind of like the, the power he wielded that, uh, that, uh, that things were kind of, things were kind of thrown so, you know, the proverbial apple cart was so upended by, by his, his death.
Thomas777GUEST
So the key to understanding what, what became the kind of, the kind of rationale and ethos for Nuremberg, that owes a lot to Robert Jackson.
Thomas777GUEST
You know, and we briefly got into Jackson's background.
Thomas777GUEST
He was kind of an unusual choice, uh, not just for a Supreme Court justice, okay? As, as we got into, you know, he was appointed by Roosevelt to the Supreme Court in '41.
1 HR 20 MINS LATER
Thomas777GUEST
Hi, everybody.
Pete QuiñonesHOST
What are we doing today, Thomas?
Thomas777GUEST
What we're doing today, I believe we left off, um, in the last episode, we were talking about Robert Jackson, you know, and his appointment to, you know, lead the American delegation and, you know, how, how the, how political intrigues led to America being this, you know, to the international tribunal really being an American enterprise.
Thomas777GUEST
You know, just 'cause, uh, by, it was by, by political necessity.
ThomasGUEST
It should have come as no surprise, but it goes to show you just kind of like the power he wielded that things were kind of thrown so, you know, the proverbial apple cart was so upended by his death.
ThomasGUEST
So the key to understanding what became the kind of the kind of rationale and ethos for Nuremberg, that owes a lot to Robert Jackson.
ThomasGUEST
You know, when we briefly got into Jackson's background, he was kind of an unusual choice, not just for Supreme Court justice, okay, as we got into, you know, he was appointed by Roosevelt to the Supreme Court in 41.
ThomasGUEST
But, you know, he was born, he was a relatively young guy.
1 HR 14 MINS LATER
Pete QuiñonesHOST
What are we doing today, Thomas?
ThomasGUEST
What we're doing today,
ThomasGUEST
I believe we left off in the last episode, we were talking about Robert Jackson, you know, and his appointment to, you know, lead the American delegation.
ThomasGUEST
And, you know, how political intrigues led to America being this, you know, to the International Tribunal really being an American enterprise.
Daryl DarnellHOST
You just knew.
Daryl DarnellHOST
A while back on my other podcast, Entering the Fifth Dimension, my co-host Robert and I discussed a Twilight Zone episode from 1964 called I Am the Night, Color Me Black.
Daryl DarnellHOST
Rod Serling, the creator of the Twilight Zone, wrote that episode.
Daryl DarnellHOST
And our guest that night was Rodney Barnes.
ThomasGUEST
But
ThomasGUEST
moving on to the kind of concrete particulars, the person of Robert H. Jackson,
ThomasGUEST
the Supreme Court justice,
ThomasGUEST
He was selected by Truman to lead the American delegation at Nuremberg, okay? And this was very deliberate.
Philippe SandsGUEST
So that appears to say that even if he commits crimes against humanity or genocide in exercise of those powers, the US courts can't do anything.
Philippe SandsGUEST
And I wrote a piece for the Atlantic Magazine comparing that judgment with the approach taken by one of his, in a sense, former colleagues, Robert Jackson, who had been a Supreme Court justice, who writes a letter to President Truman in June 1945 and says, at Nuremberg, there won't be any immunity for anyone because it's not who we are.
Philippe SandsGUEST
We believe, and our system provides, that everyone is subject to the law, is not above the law.
Philippe SandsGUEST
If you compare 1945 with 2024, you see the extent of the fall and the way in which the lawyers are effectively doing the bidding, or some of the lawyers are doing the bidding of the Trump administration.
Anna BowerPANELIST
So it was all quite remarkable and pretty wild.
Roger ParloffPANELIST
And by then, because of the testimony, which we can discuss, we knew that this case was just political from top to bottom in the most sort of Robert Jackson way.
Roger ParloffPANELIST
It was the ultimate case.
Roger ParloffPANELIST
And to have it punctuated that way was sort of perfect.
Anna BowerPANELIST
So it was all quite remarkable and pretty wild.
Roger ParloffPANELIST
And by then, because of the testimony, which we can discuss, we knew that this case was just political from top to bottom in the most sort of Robert Jackson way.
Roger ParloffPANELIST
It was the ultimate case.
Roger ParloffPANELIST
And to have it punctuated that way was sort of perfect.
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