Robert J. Garlick

And that collaborative approach where you're prepared to innovate and you're not inhibited because it's only the preserve of people with multi-billion data centers.

I think the real, and I think Rob Garlick, who we had on, who was head of innovation at Citi, the international investment bank, he said he believes the real AI revolution is about to come.

That what we've had was a taster to bring the educational level up.

so people have an awareness and you go through that oh this is special this is amazing i don't understand i'm not qualified to oh is this how it works we see people for what they are oh now we can have a play with it and the younger generations as they come up they're not going to be inhibited in the way that older generations are where oh that's this is way above your head But it's the beauty of youth.

There's another side to that, so that's what they're doing.

And I had a chat with Rob Garlick yesterday, who's a visiting professor at, sorry, I think he was head of innovation and ran equities at Citibank for many years.

And he was saying that there's an incompatibility between what we need as a society democracy and how that functions and the commercial imperative of the large companies.

So what is that gap in between and who holds that power? And this is again, why I think it's so important for us to have this conversation and put it out there.