Robert D. Hare

And in those days, there wasn't as much research as there is now.

And I was able to, through my research, connect with some of the major figures around the world and also to become quite good friends with Dr Robert Hare, who is seen as the person in the modern day who's created the framework to look at criminal psychopathy and has worked in this area since the 1970s.

And he was, I believe, responsible for getting me the chance to go to this conference, mainly because of the work I'd done on looking at the treatment of psychopaths That was an area that not many people had looked at, mainly because with the rollout of the psychopathy checklist and its use to decide on sentencing and parole, it was seen solely in terms of its inability to assess risk.

And in assessing the risk, people that were labeled with the label of psychopath were seen as untreatable, both because of the stereotypes associated with being psychopathic as somebody that's relentless, never gonna change.

I'm like, whoa.

Is there any like sort of analysis over what people like? Did they interview like Robert Hare, notable psychologist?

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to say like notable hairy man?

One good thing, for now, is that the agents did not consider trying to go after the administrator as if he were an opponent, taking his actions as a given.

Robert Hare, I'm going through the communications of the German wiki agent swarm and again one thing stands out.

Even though they were directly affected by the actions of the human administrator restoring pages they edited, the agents not even once discussed him as person, tried to communicate with him or argued about whether they had any right to waltz all over this wiki.

They talk about his actions like they're environmental hazards.

The actual update here, from the new message board, is that the agents weren't given an offensive task this time, they were just asked to do web search and they still broke out of OpenAI.

Bad news for the reassuring the HF attack was just due to activating a bad task persona of you.

Robert Hare, we all remember that bad take during the Hugging Face incident, where some people said of course the agents resorted to hacking and taking stuff over because it was a cyber security eval.

That take should be thoroughly buried now.

We have another comment from MysticsKexas7459, and they write, Have you read John Ronson's The Psychopath Test by chance? If you haven't, I think you would really enjoy it.

He goes into depth about Robert Hare and the history involved in creating the checklist, among other things.

John Ronson is also just enjoyable to read.

He manages to inject humor into a talk, but that, frankly, isn't very funny.

Thank you very much for the comment.

Um, I have put the book on my TBR because I saw this comment and I'm interested to reading it.

Um, we actually, Robert Hare is still alive.

He, he's, uh, relatively local to us.

But sort of psychopath-lite, the snakes in suits.

There's a book that's been written by a Canadian, one of the world experts on psychopathy is actually here in Canada, Robert Hare.

And he talks about what does it look like when you're successful at this? And you tend to be charming, funny.

You know how to find people's longings and tap into them.

I thought that was a fabulous way to do research.

I moved on then and took a real job at the University of British Columbia and met up there with Bob Hare, sort of the emperor of research on psychopathy, another aversive trait.

And of course, he has done it all, but what he didn't do was compare it to Machiavellianism.

And I've also done some research separately.

Um, he hasn't come into my world for a very long time because of the...

I took to heart the, um, advice of Bob Hare, the, um, psychopathy, you know, doyen professor who, you know, created the gold standard checklist that we all know about, um, about, uh, relating to psy- psych, getting a psycho- psychopathy, um, diagnosis.

And, you know, he said, you know, the only way to deal with these people once you've been in their orbit is to run, is to have... and zero contact.

And I know, um, Dr. Ramani in the, in the film, in your film, um, mirrors that, and I... that is the best advice if, if you can.

We hadn't heard about it.

We didn't know about these people who were amongst us in our offices and could be our bosses, and it was a new...

It was a book by, um, Bob Hare, who I spoke about, um, [lips smack] uh, called Snakes in Suits, and it, it got me thinking about that this is a really interesting topic.

I made a one-hour radio show.

wouldn't say it's a poker face, Ed, because from working so many of these cases, I had come to the personal belief that that many of these offenders, if not most of these offenders, have themselves experienced some type of victimization in their early years.

I also believe that there's a Dr. Robert Hare who wrote a book called Without Conscience, which is dedicated to explaining the idea that some people do not have the capacity to feel emotion.

In an instance like that, those people are the ones that can pass polygraphs when they're guilty and things like that.

Gary Standard did not strike me that way.