Robert Beverly Hale

I think some like seeds were probably planted a little bit earlier.

Like, um, I remember I picked up a, um, uh, uh, what is it? It's like drawing lessons from the old masters by, um, Robert Beverly Hale.

I don't know if you, have you heard of, uh, that book? That was another cool book.

There's drawing lessons and anatomy lessons from the great master, the old masters.

What was the name of it? I think it's drawing lessons from the old masters.

I'm pretty sure.

And Robert Beverly Hale was kind of like this epic art students league teacher.

Okay.