So to kick us off, Robbie, I was wondering if you could share with us your own informed insights on what's been going on in this AI realm, if you will.

So I could talk all day around AI.

That is the hot topic and has been for a while.

But there's, there's a couple of things I want to mention from a, a cyber perspective.

One's just the change in a- attack methods that AI sort of in- introduced.

So w- a couple of years ago, the bad guys, the hackers, they were targeting organizations.

They were spending significant amount of time looking at the right targets, doing their research, looking for weak points to get in.

In your opinion, um, what would you say to listeners in terms of alleviating their fears, or perhaps the converse, when it comes to the security of such data collated together?

So I'm wondering what you're seeing as alternative ways to get in there.

Look, nothing beats face-to-face interaction with people, right? Nothing does, right? There's the usual suspects, trade shows, but buyers aren't going to trade shows these days.

I don't know if you've seen that as well, Andrew, but I think CEOs are getting really jaded with them because all they get is business card after business card and then 100 follow-up phone calls.

I'm not seeing buyers go to trade shows at all.

It's good for people like myself who wants to keep abreast of what's going on in the market.

But I would say it's not a good place to actually do business unless you're doing business with MSPs or trying to set up partnerships.

What I am seeing more of is startups actually creating their own events and attracting people that way.

It's not like they're standing there going, well, let's do it sensibly.