And they, they will kind of like, was there somebody in your path that like did actually think it was a good idea and hope

Well, yes.

First of all, the idea, first, my family is supportive because I come from three generations of work at home rock stars.

My grandmother was an early doctor in this country and she ran a practice out of her home in Chicago, believe it or not.

My father started a mail order business in the 60s and we all worked for him.

So when I tell my parents who were creative, artistic and business entrepreneurial, that I'm starting something, they are supportive.

I tell my in-laws, they're like, you're an idiot.

let's talk a little bit about the tools so now hey we've already talked a little bit about it because they've they've improved over time but what is the what is your main tool now that you

Okay.

So that was my distinction.

So I just kinda...

My parents were big on creativity.

I saw how they were into music, so they were very open to us exploring music.

And the science thing was really a process of elimination.

E- early on in school, I did well in science and math, and I realized that I d- I had derelict friends.

Miami to New York?

So talking a bit more about entrepreneurship, right, and leading yourself as an entrepreneur, Of course, there are things that are romanticized about

entrepreneurship.

It's definitely harder than a regular job.

Let's start with that.

Everyone thinks it's easier.

And I get approached all the time by people saying, I've got this great invention.

I'll give it to you and we'll split the money.

So what are a few non-negotiables in how you live your life right now? Like, do we have any like daily routines or?

What did you two look like as a team before the MS diagnosis? Well, way,

way back, she was my roommate's girlfriend.

So we became friends for three years before we ever dated in college.

I knew who she was in high school.

And then when he screwed up, screwed her over, I sided with him because, you know, guys rule.

But then he left town and we started dating and we kissed so hard the first night she had, we had scars on her face.

So that was the day one.

What did it feel like when, I don't even know how you had time to do that, but what did it feel like when you wrote that book and gave that to the world because caregiving, even if you have help at some level, it's not an easy mental task as well as physical.

You can understand that what purification of mind is when you keep acting.

Absolutely.

I mean, it's still people ask me, what is my greatest accomplishment? That was it.

And I didn't know it when I was doing it.

I knew it was hard.

But the calmness when I reflect on it and the sense of accomplishment is huge because I still see my kids, my grandkids.

And I'm like, all this happened because of the commitment I made to keep acting.

So have you ever experienced the moments where the weight of carrying so much of responsibility felt almost overwhelming