Rob Thorne

I feel like I've had two experiences with language that have really solidified that kind of pre-reel idea.

Aside from that, Rob Thorne is a real pioneer of thinking about pre-reel in Taonga Peoro and Hine Wīrangi Kohu Morgan as well, and I was really lucky to speak with both of them and have it inform part of my thesis.

But aside from that, when I was really young, we had, I lived in Whakapapa village and there were people who came over from overseas, from Sweden, and they were about to come to our school.

And I was playing with this little girl who hardly had any English and I was probably being a really patronizing little shit.