But for you personally, what's been your sort of development from the air of the business into your role today?

I mean, even before that, Matthew, my very first job at AIR back in 2002 was sort of an entry-level risk analyst, taking client exposure data, processing it, putting it into the models, and getting output into their hands so that they can decision it through different parts of their workflow.

I was fortunate to have the opportunity to step in and help grow the insurance-linked security practice really at a time when the market exploded.

And I was lucky enough to be able to build a team that grew that space from a modeling perspective and continues to have a good share there now.

You know, when you're frontline like that, you're deploying models, you're talking to clients that the nice thing about the catastrophe bond market is you, because they're so high profile, you have the opportunity to engage with company CEOs, company presidents, company chief risk officers, these individuals who are really on the front lines of protecting their organizations.

And that gave me the opportunity to then step into different roles and various leveraging that experience and that knowledge from talking to those people.

So.

So Yeah, always great to hear people's sort of reading or listening preferences.