Was that a blessing or a curse?

Well, what, what's really interesting, and Andrew did a great job with this documentary, is it's a real snapshot of what it was like in that a group of people can experience the exact same thing and come away with completely different views of w- what, what it was like, which makes sense 'cause we're all wired differently.

And I, my recollection going through it was, you know, look, it's that thing like if, if you're...

There's always gonna be somebody sort of in the zeitgeist.

Do you know what I mean? And you see it now with, there's always gonna be a young actor or a young, you know, it's like Sydney Sweeney right now.

Like everybody's Sydney Sweeney this, Sydney Sweeney that, right? Whatever.

And e- and someone's gonna have to occupy that space in the culture.

Oh.

... by-

by-... uh, the roast masters, Gwyneth Paltrow and Robert Downey Jr., who-

Ooh!

literally, those two, I'm telling you, I don't know- I never saw Martin and Lewis in their prime-

Yeah

...

but they don't have jack shit on those two.

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Uh-oh.

And Quincy Jones is like, "You blow, Rob Lowe!" [laughing] And, and Clinton, and Clinton is in the back, doing the Wayne's World, "I'm not worthy."

It is.

And we shot that scene, lost the, the light, and I walked from Grant Park to Soldier Field.

It was a Monday Night Football game, Green Bay Bears, and it was The Refrigerator's first touchdown.

What?

And I show up with my learner's permit.

I didn't even have my license to drive.

(laughs) And I showed up to my first Beverly Hills mansion I've ever been to.

And Cary Grant answers the door.

Oh my God.

In a white bathrobe.

Mm-hmm.

Holy crap.

Earlier on the show, Seahawks defensive end, DeMarcus Lawrence.

Coming up, ESPN announcer, Chris Fowler, NFL Network insider, Tom Pelissero, National Championship head coach, Mack Brown.

And now, (audience cheering) it's Rich Eisen.

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Dude, Tom Cruise was such a baller.

He was, he was, he was probably my, one of my closest friend And he was so great, and he...

I always looked up to him, and he always had these cool things that he would come up with.

That's nice.

For sure.

And it manifests itself, I think, in a lot of ways where it's like if something doesn't go my way or, which happens to everybody, or w- there's a disappointment, I just don't ever wallow in it, and I never blame others, ever.

Ever.

I don't blame myself either, but I'm like, "Okay.

All right.

Today's another day.

Wow.

Yeah.

Just email him, drop him a line.

That, that really moves the needle.

People always think, "Oh, I'm just one person," but you know, they, you know, I was on a- I- I was on a show called The West Wing and I learned a little bit about politics and they have a metric, it's probably changed in the 25 years, but if one person phone, calls, they look at it mathematically that that means that is the way that at least ten other people are feeling who didn't call.

Right.

Uh, uh, whether you're, whatever your thing is in your life, change is hard, a lot of times it makes, requires tough choices, facing truths you don't wanna face, whatever it is, and it takes being in enough pain to do it.

Maybe our industry and California in particular is in enough pain to finally make some changes-