Rob Joyce

I don't go to church.

I go to Pastor Bob's church, Pastor Rob Joyce up in Arkansas.

That's my main church.

It's where I go when I can get...

Act two, same doors, faster burglars.

A few days before we recorded this episode, Robert sat in a client briefing given by Rob Joyce, who spent more than three decades at the NSA and finished as its director of cybersecurity.

You know, one of the assets that we have at Worldwide Technology gave us a briefing in front of some clients about four days ago, uh, Rob Joyce.

He's a former director of the NSA.

And it was very grounding because one of the things that he highlighted was AI has dramatically shifted the speed that you can go through from an attacker's perspective, but it didn't really introduce a new attack vector.